And she never got a dime for helping.

But you’re welcome, America!

“He’s like, ‘Are you kidding me?

Keeping Up With The Kardashians; Deena Katz

Kim Kardashian West, Khloe Kardashian, and Kourtney Kardashian (inset: Deena Katz).E!/Kobal/Shutterstock; Inset: Emma McIntyre/Getty Images

Why didn’t you call?’

I said, ‘I didn’t want to bother you.'”

They love having people over, and they literally knew everybody in town.

Even if they fought, it wasn’t mean-spirited.

It came from a place of love."

Still, she begged Seacrest to meet with the clan.

“But this was a TV show.

They had to do this.”

To help make the sale, Seacrest sent a crew to the Kardashian house to film a sizzle reel.

president and Comcast Entertainment Group CEO,toldLos Angeles Magazinerecently.

“Nobody liked it.

They said, ‘They don’t do anything.

They’re not stars.

They’ve got no skills.’

They turned it down.

Harbert added, “Nothing like the Kardashians had been on TV before.

Look at the way they’re swearing at each other!’

And then one sister would be waxing the other sister’s ass.

And she’d be on all fours!

Everything about the show was new and surprising.

And that’s the No.

1 rule in television.

You have to surprise.

You have to give the viewers something they haven’t seen before.”

She started working forDancing With theStarsa year beforeKUWTKdebuted on E!

She even had a cameo or two onKUWTKin the early days.

“It was weird,” she recalls.

“They would like do things and talk about Deena Katz.

And then I remember being in it, too.

There was a scene at some restaurant in Calabasas where we were having dinner.

I was shocked it became a hit.”