Yeah, those days are long gone.
Gabriel did not hesitate when having to pull the trigger with a gun pointed at his own head.
And sometimes like, “Oh yeah, we absolutely have to do this.”
Robert Patrick, Seth Gilliam, Ross Marquand in ‘The Walking Dead’.Josh Stringer/AMC
And then in this case, I just felt like there was more story to tell with Father Gabriel.
And I think Seth is a wonderful part of the cast.
So that was why the stay of execution.
Robert Patrick in ‘The Walking Dead’.Josh Stringer/AMC
And we get to see all that in this episode.
So you put Aaron and Gabriel together here.
The question is, why these two?
Why put Aaron and Gabriel together?
What was the thought behind that?
That was their overriding philosophy for a long time.
So we just thought that there was some fun to play there.
There’s a lot of disillusionment in this episode at different times from the different people.
He misses his old job as a recruiter.
He’s thinking about those days.
What’s going on with Aaron?
But he’s very realistic in knowing that that’s not going to happen any time soon.
And so Aaron is somebody who’s really, really fighting to hold onto his hope.
And he’s in a dark place, and he’s tired, and he misses his kid.
So that’s where he’s at.
Of course, for that to all be dashed by the dark events of the episode.
What’s going on here?
Where does this come from?
It seems like there’s obviously more there.
And he himself started the apocalypse doing a really dark thing.
And so just the nature of humankind is something that’s just foremost on his mind.
The guy said that he didn’t bluff too easily, but he does bluff him.
And Gabriel just makes this gut instinct decision that this guy, this is a really bad guy.
He’s a dangerous guy.
He is a guy who will turn against his own family member just over who knows what.
And he’s obviously been carrying that.
Who knows how many people he’s played this dark game with?
He just must be too far gone.
And then, the grim discovery they have afterwards really proves that his instinct was right.
How could you ever trust this person?
And whether or not that is objectively true, it’s definitely where his headspace is at right now.
What do you think?
Do you think it was the right move?
I think inthatworld, I think he did the right thing.
I think that this was a person who has some sick ideas of how to deal with conflict.
The world is nothing but conflict.
That is a really good what-if.
I think maybe Gabriel kills the brother anyway.
Just too much of a risk?
I think he’s also too much of a risk.
It’s these two brothers who turn on each other in such a terrible way.
He carved up his brother’s face.
He tried to steal all his stuff.
He would’ve definitely killed his own brother.
He was willing to play the game.
And the interesting thing is with Aaron and Gabriel, they’re both selfless.
But that guy put a bullet in his wife’s head.
So, it’s a dark family.
That’s putting it mildly.
Tell me about casting Robert Patrick here in not just one role, but two.
Where did this story come from, and how did the T-1000 end up playing Mays?
The story was a pitch from the writers of this episode.
It was Jim Barnes and Erik Mountain.
And in really, really ugly ways.
And at first, the roles were supposed to be just brothers.
Like, who knows, they didn’t look alike.
And that just feels even more awful, because they’ve been together since literally the womb."
I’m such a huge fan of his body of work, just theTerminatorstuff alone is so awesome.
And he, fortunately, was game.
He loves the idea, he loved the script, and got excited to come and play with us.
And he couldn’t have been lovelier.
Sometimes it happens that way.
We have amazing casting directors.
So I was really grateful.
What’s coming up next onThe Walking Dead?
So that is Princess, and Ezekiel, and Yumiko, and Eugene.
And more about her past, as well.
