They found both, along with a few less pleasant surprises.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: First off, I want to know everything about purple-haired high schooler turned zombie Sabina James.
What can you tell me about her, Matt?

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So she’s regretting the fact that she didn’t do some things.
It’s almost like Sabina was living a version of Iris' life.
But obviously things did go down there that were pretty dark.
There are a lot of clues that we laid in terms of telling that story.
And everyone else was sequestered and put into lockers in the other room.
And so I’ll say that you never know.
That’s my big answer.
Well, I feel like we need a Sabina James episode ofTales of the Walking Dead.
I’m putting that out there.
I just feel like it needs to happen.
Yeah, she had her friend, the photographer.
So there’s grist for the mill, as they say.
Was it envisioned that way, as sort of a callback to classic horror like that?
Yeah, we were looking at episode 3 as this big spectacle episode that had a lot of scope.
We do have a wolf, we do have some empties.
So in that sense, I would say there’s even some ghosts lingering.
So ultimately, this is my long way of saying, it is our haunted house episode.
As we broke this story, it came down to telling the story from Iris' point of view.
It’s not necessarily Iris getting a flashback episode, like we’ve seen in the past.
This really is more of a Hope flashback story.
But for Iris, it’s about seeing things through her specific lens.
So using that watercolor brush effect something we intentionally wanted to capture in this.
That’s a good question.
I would say based on what we know in episode 3, there was an attack.
His hands are very bruised and we see glimpses of him pounding away on someone.
Are there other aspects to the story that we don’t know yet?
I can’t wait for people to see that.
So here’s another question that you, not unlike Silas, can dance around.
We finally get out first long look at Hope & Iris' dad Leo.
What is that big stuff, Matt?
Leo was someone who was very much into his work and he has tunnel vision in that way.
And on top of that, he’s got the weight of the world on his shoulders.
He’s trying to help lay the foundation of what might be a cure someday.
Now that they’ve gotten out of the school, what’s coming up next for this group?
Well, the episode really tees up something interesting for Elton.
We got some glimpses of him.
So it’s really a great emotional episode and I’m looking forward to everybody checking that out.
What we’re seeing in the coda is a glimpse at a new environment.
A little bit of a tease of things to come.