Yes, we can.

We had no idea what would be next."

Well, if they would have guessed “cat strangulation,” then they’d have been right.

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Jay Karnes on ‘The Shield’.FX

shares Karnes, the actor behind the ever-curious crime solver Det.

“I looked at him and said, ‘You’re joking, right?’

The good news is, David Mamet is going to be directing a Dutch-heavy episode.

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CCH Pounder and Jay Karnes on ‘The Shield’.Prashant Gupta/FX

The bad news is, you’re going to be strangling a cat in that episode.'”

Part of their chat during interrogation later spursDutch’s shocking treatment of a stray cathe encounters.

People were repulsed and fascinated; we made a PETA top 10 worst list."

PETA wasn’t the only one.

“I was adamantly against it.

Mamet and I got into it.

I was like, ‘you could’t have Dutch choke a f—ing cat!’

It was crazy to me.

And Mamet was just, ‘The cat dies.’

[Laughs] We called in Shawn and I was outvoted.

It’s powerful, there’s no doubt.

It shapes his character moving forward.

They don’t really address it per se, not that you would.

What would he do?

It’s not like he’s going to confess.”

“I was always afraid they were going to [revisit],” he admits.

“For me, it was so human and real.

I mean, how human is that?