“That was just devastating to lose in a physical elimination,” [SPOILER] tells EW.
“Oh, that’s going to burn me deep.”
Warning: This article contains spoilers about Wednesday’s premiere ofThe Challenge: Spies, Lies, and Allies.

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One ofSurvivor’s strongest physical and strategic threats set her sights onThe Challengefor season 37.
And it’s all because of a lie.
“But I can’t sit here with a zero-one elimination record.

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That is abysmal.”
“We’ll call it all a wash,” she says.
“But it was a fun experience.

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So that’s how I’m looking at it.”
I have no regrets at all about trying to sway the house vote.
That’s what I should have been doing during that time.
But it was just so chaotic.
But then also going out on my first elimination I have a what is that?
Oh, that’s going to burn me deep.
So I’m going to have to go into several eliminations to get to the 90th percentile or something.
That was just devastating to lose in a physical elimination.
And it’ll make the ground a little bit more fertile for strategy next time around.
You were voted in by pretty much everyone because of rumors about “The List.”
So what’s the deal?
What is “The List?”
There is no list!
We need 17 votes to be safe.
It wasn’t a hit list.
The list and the way that Emy talked about it never existed.
It was like common senseChallengeconversation but something got lost in translation.
Wait, so it started with Amanda telling Emy to make up a lie?
Y’all think I’m so stupid.
[Laughs] I’d have to be a fool!
But the reality is, some people like Amanda, chaos is her game.
And Emy, chaos is her game.
Strategy has been my game, being a strong competitor has been my game.
You’re too big of a strategic threat!
Yeah, and now I know what makes people feel comfortable.
What was it like in that deliberation when everything blew up?
I genuinely thought it was Michele that started the rumors.
When I realized it was Emy, it made sense.
She was thinking, “Let’s save me.”
That said, how’s my relationship with Tommy?
Eh, just like it was before I met him.
I mean, we’ve had conversations and [pauses] I’d say we’re cool.
It’s a game.
Is there anyone specific you blame for your elimination?
No, I always look at things of what could I have done differently.
I’ve got a list of things I could have done differently.
I could have been more aggressive picking a partner the first time around.
Had I had any of the first guys that came through, I would have won the first challenge.
So I’m just going to keep the ownership in my hands for that one.
If she loses, then I just hurt her feelings and her game is over.
[Laughs] That sucks!
That elimination was heart wrenching for me more than it was physically demanding.
At the end of the day Corey L. is just built like a beast.
And there’s no way that I could drag three people.
How long did that elimination last?
It was a while and and actually we went at it twice.
The first time it was like, what strategy [is best]?
He’s bigger than you.
But Renan got stuck somehow!
[Sighs] So we’ve got to just tire them out.
So it was long enough to let me know that this is defeat.
You did that elimination twice?
So was it a best-of-three situation?
Yeah, it was supposed to be best-of-three.
That first one hit and I was like, oh lord.
It was a struggle, everybody was fighting to stay in the game.
And Corey pulled that one out for the team.
What happened with Renan’s arm?
We see him standing in a sling at the very end.
I don’t know the medical term but he did something to it, something with his shoulder.
[Laughs] These challenges are intense!
I wish I would have experienced way more of them because that’s the exciting part for me.
But the little taste that I received is enough to have me wanting more.
So you definitely want to come back again in future seasons.
What would you do differently to train or prepare?
Training my mind is the most important part.
Would you ever consider going back toSurvivorin the future or are you focusing now on justThe Challenge?
The Challengeshowed me something that I might be better suited for, to be quite honest.
I’m not trying to be poor.
I like that.Survivorwould end at deliberation, and I’m not a social player.
Strategy and social are two different things.
That setup will help me get closer to my goal of a million dollars.
The Challenge: Spies, Lies, and Alliesairs Wednesdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on MTV.