An unprecedented number of women and people of colorare up for Oscars this year.

And while nominees in acting and directing categories are grabbing all the headlines Chloe Zhao!

there are more trailblazers to celebrate in the craft categories.

Awardist Craft Roundtable

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“Actors are now speaking up and wanting more hairstylists in the trailer than can do their hair.”

The panelists also had advice for those who wanted to break into fields where they are a minority.

Even though they’re absolutely amazing artists."

One thing the panelists won’t play down: Their excitement for this year’s Oscars ceremony.

Watch the panel above, or listen to the full conversation below.