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PATTY JENKINS:Its interesting, I keep thinking about it.
How’s that for pressure?
Clay Enos/Warner Bros.
[Laughs] Well of course its a huge amount…
But certain things have been much easier.
Sequels do tend to have a bumpy history.
Spider-mans, Batmans, its true.
Lots of them, the second ones better; lots of them, the second ones worse.
all of those things, those are finally done.
Dianas motivations and backstory arent really like many of the superheroes we know.
Its not, You killed my parents in a dark alley!
or Ahhh I got bit by a spider.
Shes less about fighting and shes more about confronting a point of view.
As a demi-goddess, does she have flaws then?
Oh yeah, shes not perfect at all.
I think shes vulnerable to love, meaning she can be hurt by love.
And shes optimistic, I think she can be wrong about things.
Its not automatic, she doesnt have simple story lines where its like good versus evil.
And so I have always thought of her as incredibly human in lots of ways.
Gal Gadot, too, seems like someone we shouldnt relate to as much as we do.
Gal is an incredibly beautiful decent thoughtful kind and well-intentioned person, and she exudes that in every way.
Ive never seen jealousy towards her, even as beautiful and stunning as she is.
Everyones rooting for her because shes rooting for you.
And you feel that, you feel that in every take that shes trying to save people.
You see how much she cares, how seriously she takes it.
Theres also sort of secret rom-com happening inside both movies.
Its a huge part of that character.
Inever did do a chemistry test[with Gadot andChris Pine.]
Weirdly, just when I met him I knew for a fact that I didnt need to.
But hes also really unabashedly unfazed by powerful women.
And you know, so can other Chrises.
This is not to put down the other Chrises!
Hes not beta at all, hes a super alpha who can wear absolutely on his sleeve his discomfort.
You want somebody who can embody that, and Chris just very naturally is great at it.
Hes warm and hes chill and always funny and truly appreciates women.
[Laughs]
That’s a nice segue to talk about casting Kristen as Barbara-slash-Cheetah.
What I didnt want was two sexy hot women fighting in a flat way, you know?
In the lore, Cheetah is often someone whos friends with Diana but jealous of her.
Its funny, I dont even think of her being a female villain, although she is.
Im just telling a story about person under duress who turns into a killer.
Like Supermans not about being a man, hes saving the world you know?
It has been a huge drag.
The side of me thats involved in any way with making change Im proud of.
The side of me thats being held back by being a woman director first is a drag.
Every movie I make may have a female lead coincidentally, but I dont make womens movies.
Im just making movies for everybody that might have female leads, you know?
And so the world is slowly coming around.
And nobody even talks about it!
Shes not a woman whos like a man.
Let’s talk about the setting.
How was it on this one to get back the 80s, a decade you actually lived through?
But still its like learning a language that youre not related to.
All of those things I so totally understand.
Just throw trash on the ground, the world is huge, theres all this space.
Lets get more stuff, more trucks, more land, tear it down!
AndPedro Pascals characterreally kind of encapsulates that, doesnt he?
And then the question being, what happens if everybody does?
So we should all look at ourselves, because were all participants in that right now.
What can you tell me about what comes next for Wonder Woman?
And making a difference in the world without having to change who they are to do it.
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