Despite playing world-class hacker Ramsey in the last threeFast & Furiousmovies,Nathalie Emmanuelis admittedly still no tech expert.
That happened immediately before we started speaking.
I’ve learned how to do AirDrop, though!"
Nathalie Emmanuel in ‘The Fate of the Furious’.Universal Pictures
“I had never seen that before, and I remember that really impacting me.
and the opportunity to play a “brilliant, smart, and capable” character.
“It was terrifying, I’m not even going to pretend,” she recalls.
The cast of ‘The Fate of the Furious.'.Matt Kennedy/Universal
It was a bit like, ‘These are Hollywood movie stars, and then there’s me.’
I remember being quite intimidated, but I also had such a warm welcome by them.
Straightaway it was like, ‘Oh, you’re just one of us now.'”
Nathalie Emmanuel and Ludacris in ‘Furious 7’.Scott Garfield/Universal Pictures
Production was immediately put on hold and the future of the project was unclear.
Ironically,Fate of the Furiousfeatured one of Emmanuel’sThronescostars inKristofer Hivju (Tormund!
)and filmed some scenes in Iceland, a location also used on the series.
And yet, the actress has still never spoken to Hivju on-camera or been to Iceland.
Tyrese [Gibson] is the only one that went, and it’s funny because he is like …
Sorry, Tyrese, but, he is not one for the cold.
He’s not built for it.
And, like her character, Emmanuel can’t pick one.
“They are both very attractive, capable, leading men in their own right who could choose?”
But, if I was to pick somebody for Ramsey… it’s so hard.
But just purely on interest, it would probably be Tej.
“I want a girl spin-off.
We find a way to bring everybody back, and we make of a badass girlFastmovie.
I’m so here for that.
That’s theFastspin-off that I want, that I demand!”
It was like this really cool movie, and I was like, “What?”
I had never seen that before.
Audio: Saw that look in his eye.
Seen that look before, Dominic Toretto just went rogue.
Welcome back to EW’s BINGE of the Fast Saga.
Full transcripts of which are available at ew.com.
I’m Derek Lawrence, aka the guy who went as Dominic Toretto for two straight Halloweens.
New edition alert, the Ramsey to my Queenie, Chanelle Berlin Johnson.
Chanelle, are you ready to talk about the fate of the furious in The Fate of the Furious?
I think that checks out is making sense.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, yeah.
It was fascinating to get to this one, of course, which comes after this big emotional movie.
And now, this just like this hardcore adventure that has betrayal and all this kind of stuff.
Derek Lawrence: They went to both Antarctica and Cuba.
I mean, they’re really just on both sides.
It was Beyonce, Jay-Z, and Fast and Furious.
That’s who got into Cuba when it opened up briefly.
That’s what level they were on at that point.
We’ve already chatted about the first seven installments.
I mean, what a mouthfeel that was like-
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Gosh.
So that’s, wow.
So we’re one week away from F9.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: I already said this one is packed.
I mean, what a hook I was already in, as soon as you see the trailer.
So Dom assembles a team alongside Hobbs, then betrays them for stealing an EMP for her.
There’s tons of adventure.
This goes all over the place.
But during that, Elena sadly dies.
Then they have a go at outdrive a submarine.
There’s so, so much.
Not just for this one, but you do this every week and you pack so much into these.
I don’t know how you do it.
Well done every week, but especially this week.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Thank you.
To now, just the way these travel the world with every movie.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
I remember, I think they were in New York City.
They kind of took over Time Square.
They broadcasted it live on, I think it was NBC.
And I felt like a big moment, I mean, then they replicated with F9.
They took over the super bowl in Miami and did a big concert events.
They go big on the trailers and it started with this one.
I remember being like, “Wait a minute, Dom Toretto just went rogue.”
As I quoted the great Luke Hobbs.
And we are about to see what happens in this episode when we break it all down.
Audio: Oh, she’s sick.
Going to have to do better than that, though.
Now, you’re starting to piss me off.
How do you like this?
Natalie, welcome to our binge of Fast and Furious.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Thanks for having me.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah, absolutely.
The second-best title, I think in the whole franchise.
I mean, 2 Fast 2 Furious, I think that’s just unbeatable.
Nothing can be done to top that.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Very strong.
Derek Lawrence: I know.
I still keep waiting for…
So I was like, “Okay.
I mean, if I can’t think of one F9 words.”
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: That makes sense.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Well, I guess F8 was like Fate, F8 and like F9 is like fine.
So something with the word nine and-
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: True.
Derek Lawrence: Oh, okay.
Like that’s what we got to do for 10 if they haven’t locked that in yet.
Nathalie Emmanuel: I have fully endorsed that.
I’m a huge fan of puns.
So I love that.
Derek Lawrence: Oh, awesome.
Well then you’re really going to enjoy the show then, I think.
So like I said, we’re talking Fate of the Furious.
In every episode, we start off the same way.
So how would you summarize Fate of the Furious in 10 seconds?
Nathalie Emmanuel: Okay.
We think Dom betrays us, but he has other plans.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: That’s perfect.
Derek Lawrence: I mean, that did it.
That did the job.
What is this sort of the first thing that comes to mind for you from the movie?
I felt like that was our first proper scene.
I always think about that.
Audio: He took out Hobbs, he stole an EMP.
Now, he’s disappeared.
So what are you saying?
Maybe we should consider the fact that Hobbs is right.
Dom did go rogue.
Before you judge the man, remember you’re breathing right now because he saved your life.
But obviously, Fast 8 it’s like the family grows, just really significantly.
A little [crosstalk 00:10:04] cutie boy.
Obviously, Furious 7 is when you first show up.
Before you were cast, were you a fan of the movies?
Did you have any relationship to the Fast world?
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah, absolutely.
I was like, “What?
I had never seen that before.”
And I remember that really impacting me.
That was my first kind of introduction.
I can’t remember how old I was.
I was probably slightly too young to watch it.
So that’s why it was at a friend’s house.
It wasn’t in cinema because my mom [crosstalk 00:11:03] really approved of that.
I saw some of them, but not all of them.
Then I was like, “I’m working guys.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: That’s how I felt about rewatching them as we were preparing for this podcast.
I was like, “Oh yeah, I’m working.
I’m just watching these movies.
I’ve seen a bunch of love so much.”
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah, exactly.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Well, firstly, I just thought Ramsey was such an interesting character.
She’s so brilliant.
She’s so smart and capable and I love playing women like that.
I often feel so attracted to women who are so undeniably talented and Ramsey is absolutely that.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah.
There was definitely discussion of that.
They definitely were like we think this might go on for a couple or a few movies.
That conversation came in, but to what degree?
What was it like as the new kid kind of walking into this very established family?
Nathalie Emmanuel: It was terrifying.
I’m not even going to pretend.
The many, many projects they’d all done.
And I was just like this, I don’t know.
I just felt like I’m this kind of girl from Southend-on-Sea in England, just arrived.
It was like, “Oh, you’re just one of us now.”
And straight away, the energy was just super easy and really fun.
And I was like, “Oh my God.
That was so great.
Thank you so much and was just so lovely.”
And I was like, “Oh, okay.
And it was just…
So I already felt like such a huge support from everybody, which was really lovely.
Will people like me, will I do a good job?”
Blah, blah, blah.
I had to kind of have a bit of a word with myself.
That was the kind of conversation with me, and I had to… Chanelle Berlin Johnson: So the first scene then, was that with everyone involved?
Because that has to be part of the nerves too, I’m sure.
Or were there still nerves a little of it?
And she basically just tells each person who they are?
That was my first scene in these movies.
It was like, “Okay.
So what was it like returning to filming for Fast 8?
Did everyone seemed ready to get back to kind of having fun and feel like this renewed energy maybe?
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah.
We were just like, “We need to make this great.”
So it was really lovely to return actually.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
I think that’s why it’s so touching then too.
The film literally ends with the reveal of Dom naming the baby, Brian.
So you get the script for Fast 8.
Was there one thing you were most excited about as you’re turning those pages?
Nathalie Emmanuel: Many things.
I definitely was excited for Ramsey specifically because she kind of head-to-head with her… She’s created something that essentially could really hurt a lot of people.
I just thought that was really cool.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Did you get to meet Charlize?
I think there’s just like the one scene where she comes in.
I think face to face with [crosstalk 00:22:01].
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah.
I met her a couple of times.
We didn’t get to shoot too much together, but huge fan.
I had to just play it cooler than I am right now, but she’s just iconic.
But she comes in and she just seamlessly fits it, and she knows what movie she’s in.
Instantly, off the bat and she just really goes for it.
I know my mind’s blown for both of those.
Are you the same way, especially when Dame Helen’s added to the mix?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Oh, wow.
So when I saw that she was in it…
I just needed to come.”
Just made my excuses basically.
And he was in awe, like he said, she left some tea behind.
So he made sure he’s like, “All right, what?
I have to have this tea that Helen Mirren left behind.”
Nathalie Emmanuel: Ah, I wish I had Helen’s tea.
[crosstalk 00:24:30].
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
Talked to Sung maybe he kept some.
Share the love, man.”
Get out, come on now.
And she hadn’t gotten the chance to drive yet through either Fast 8 or Hobbs and Shaw.
Now my question is when did you get to drive?
You’re always riding shotgun in every scenario.
So I’m like, “What is it?”
Nathalie Emmanuel: I don’t want to ruin it.
I don’t want to say but it’s pretty fun though.
And then like when… Vin and I had some fun doing some of that stuff together on Fast 9.
So I look forward to everyone seeing that and I’m looking forward to seeing that too.
Great [inaudible 00:27:06].
Derek Lawrence: Speaking of things that are hard to imagine, probably we see them on paper.
You’re like, “Oh, you’re sending us to Iceland, but not Cuba.”
Nathalie Emmanuel: Well, I didn’t get to Iceland either, by the way.
Derek Lawrence: Oh, really?
Nathalie Emmanuel: No.
Listen, I was so upset, I didn’t get to go to Cuba, honestly.
I was like, “Oh, okay.
But it was honestly like, it’s okay.
Especially with the country had just opened up and then it closed again.
So now I’m like, “Ah.”
Obviously, I hope in the future, I have the opportunity to go and not just work.
I’d like to actually go and enjoy and experience it as a country.
Nathalie Emmanuel: … in a hundred-degree weather.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah.
So now, I didn’t get to go to Iceland.
I got to wear the clothing [crosstalk 00:28:25] Iceland but in summer in Atlanta.
Derek Lawrence: Yes.
But he is not one for the cold, he’s not good for it.
I love you, Tyrese.
I’m sorry but…
Derek Lawrence: … And then It fit the character though, too.
Roman also would be the last person who would want to go to Iceland.
So I felt like that just is fitting all around.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: And those lines where he complains are just natural to him.
Like those were real.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah, I think [inaudible 00:29:12].
[crosstalk 00:29:26].
Derek Lawrence: That’s true.
That’s a good point.
Was that kind of wild that you both ended up on this?
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah.
It was always nice to have someone you have worked with before and spent time with.
It was great fun.
He saves her life at one point.
So what was it like?
What was it like to sort of work more closely with someone like him?
And Kurt Russell too who’s also huge in this movie.
Nathalie Emmanuel: I mean, obviously just so cool.
It’s just really exciting when you get to work with people like Kurt Russell and Dwayne and Jason.
And actually, he had this kind of other intentions, which was pretty cool.
It was lovely to do scenes with Jason and with Kurt.
So it was a real pleasure and it’s always just a little surreal, just always.
I hope that feeling never quite use me because it’s all a part of…
It makes it feel really special because I’m like, “Oh, wow.
I’m so excited to work with this person.”
What’s it like having to deliver all this tech jargon?
So do you even understand what you’re saying half the time?
But sometimes actually they have people they consult on these things with.
Like realize that’s not just that happened immediately before we started speaking.
So there you go.
I’ve learned how to do airdrop, guys.
It helps me learn it and it helps me kind of have an understanding of what I’m saying.
Audio: Wait a second, wait, wait, simple solutions might just cut it.
Which means it has a decaying sink randomizer.
Which we can reverse and track it back to the originating source and find Dom’s true location.
Telling you they got skills.
You were talking about you weren’t sure where Ramsey fit in, in the long term.
But now they’re kind of a one-two punch always because they’re both really smart.
They both have different areas of expertise.
Nathalie Emmanuel: All right.
Like, this is what I know.”
And I think there’s that kind of competitiveness, which is so much fun to play.
I just love Chris to death and he’s so sweet and we have great banter, anyway.
So it’s quite easy for us to bring that to the performance of Tej and Ramsey.
It’s obvious that they have their own space and that they are experts in.
We do this."
And then he’s like, “Oh, yeah.
Let’s do this.”
We have fun with it.
We make it fun.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: All right.
We’re taking a quick detour, but we’ll be right back with more.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Now, that we’re gassed up, let’s drive back into the interview.
When did you even start learning tech?
2 Fast 2 Furious, we didn’t see any of this man.
I’ve been at this longer than you.
I didn’t just started Fast Five doing tech.
That would be a great break in the fourth wall moment, I think.
She’s like, “Yeah.
I know I build a computer when I was like seven,” so I don’t know.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
I don’t know what you’re doing in Miami, but a-
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah, right.
Derek Lawrence: … catch up.
Nathalie Emmanuel: I hate this question.
Derek Lawrence: You hate it?
Like who could choose?
It’s so tough.
And everyone has… She’s not a racer.
She’s not a driver.
If anything, she shouldn’t even really be in this group of people, but she is.
She’s not the car person.
She’s like, “Oh, I know how to program the car.”
But I don’t know, it’s kind of fun for me that she is that person.
She’s not a relative or a love interest of anybody.
But if I was to pick somebody for Ramsey, just purely…
It’s so hard, but really on interests, it would probably be Tej.
But sometimes people want to date the person who does absolutely the opposite of what they do.
So I don’t know, it’s so hard.
I don’t know.
Derek Lawrence: Well, no, don’t even joke about that.
He’s still mourning Gisele.
Come on, Chanelle.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Hell, yeah.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: That’s true.
Although we don’t know exactly how many years it’s been for him.
So maybe he’s ready for something else, but that’s okay.
Nathalie Emmanuel: We’re not ready, too soon.
But even late in Fast 8, there’s that really funny bit about them.
Well, it’d be like, “All right.
It’s time to pick,” and she’s essentially like, “Okay.
I’ll go with whoever knows my last name.”
Which obviously she knows, they don’t know it.
Audio: I’m asking a real question right now.
Is it going to be revenge of the nerds or the dark night?
To be honest, I like both of you.
There you go [crosstalk 00:39:40].
But just before we get into all of that.
Let me ask you one question.
you’ve got the option to ask me anything.
Ah, what’s my last name?
When you guys figure it out, then.
I guess you could let me know.
It’s going to be Parker.
That’s all that really matters.
Hey, Ms. Parker.
So are we confirming then that Ramsey is her first name?
Nathalie Emmanuel: I’m not confirming either way.
But it was definitely a question that they didn’t know.
You don’t know anything personal about her.
You don’t even know her name."
Maybe that’s not the right answer, but they didn’t even guess it.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Well, they hadn’t [inaudible 00:41:00].
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
Every time I laugh at that.
Nathalie Emmanuel: He totally just came up with that and he totally ad-lib that.
Derek Lawrence: I figured that seemed like something that had to be.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Tyrese had told us that they improvise a lot of that stuff.
So for you, is it always a kind of a surprise?
Like what are they going to say next?
I throw this in."
Then it kind of evolves as we shoot it.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
Wrapping up, we’re going to do what we call the final lap.
So it kind of be a rapid round of questions.
That’ll be-
Nathalie Emmanuel: If you ask me that question.
I’m going to be so mad.
But these will be less specific to Fast 8, but this one will include Fast 8.
Now, we’re not replacing anybody.
We’re just adding someone in.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Ooh, that’s really hard.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Oh, that’s a great one.
Derek Lawrence: Oh, man.
Nathalie Emmanuel: And she’s a badass.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
Nathalie Emmanuel: She’s a badass, and I would just love to work with her.
She could be like Ramsey’s bestie from London.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, yeah.
Derek Lawrence: Justin and Vin we got two more, we got Fast 10 and 11.
Take notes, we always need to add some great new people.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah.
So we don’t know where they’ve all been.
What if you have Lashana Lynch your besties, is that the spinoff movie you would want?
Is like their adventures or is there something else?
Nathalie Emmanuel: I want to go spinoff just with everybody.
We find a way to bring everybody back and we make a badass girl Fast movie.
I’m so here for that.
Derek Lawrence: I mean, that would literally be like the greatest movie of all time.
Just imagine the people, Eva Mendes, I’ve been waiting for her to come back.
Get her in the mix.
It’s an addition, all the people that are still in the movies, it would be insane.
That’s totally the right answer.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Yeah.
I think that would be… That’s the Fast spinoff that I want.
You hear that, guys?
Derek Lawrence: Natalie’s one demand to come back for the next two films.
You got to do that.
And for me, personally.
So I would love to learn more about Ramsey.
Derek Lawrence: I think at minimum, we need it.
Kind of filling in some blanks for dogs.
So maybe we need a Ramsey short film.
At minimum…
Nathalie Emmanuel: That will origin story.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yes.
Derek Lawrence: Absolutely.
I mean, we need the origin story before we get the spinoff.
You know what I mean?
Natalie, thank you for joining us and becoming a part of the binge family.
Nathalie Emmanuel: Oh, it’s my absolute pleasure.
You want to meet them?
All right, everyone meet Brian.
Sign me the hell up.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, yeah.
That’s absolutely the spinoff I want.
Like what crazy adventures that they would get into.
There’s so much to explore there.
I need to know.
I don’t think we’ve heard much about that in the last year or so.
So hopefully maybe binge, maybe us, and Natalie’s conversation gets the ball roll in there.
We don’t even need to take a check.
We just want to see it.
I mean-
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Right, right.
Derek Lawrence: Exactly.
While we wait to hear a Vin and Justin Lin, give us a call and get that going.
Let’s pick some Fate of the Furious winners.
Chanelle, as always.
What’s our first category?
If I win, I take the money and the respect to some people that’s more important.
So Derek for this movie, there’s a lot of players, who you think wins your respect?
Derek Lawrence: Oh, it’s a three-way tie for me.
And I can’t believe these three people are in this movie and that’s part of it.
It’s perfect that they all will get our respect together.
I mean, we are right now, I guess.
One, that they’re even in this movie.
They had to have done like combined.
What do we think like 10 days filming?
Helen, she’s a one day an [crosstalk 00:50:31].
Like that, or maybe two, because she has the scene in the ambulance with Jason.
Derek Lawrence: That’s max.
They were going on this summer.
So I can give you three days."
And what if you came up with a little Nobody just to, “You take my spot.”
You know what I mean?
She got to go to Cuba maybe too.
That was like, she had one day at Cuba and the rest just on this plane set.
So like you’re free to’t beat that job for any of these, right?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: That’s incredible.
Just like how much prestige… That’s something that they just really value too, which is cool to be able to say.
Derek Lawrence: We should mention that’s the thing as well.
So I guess on four-fold here on why they earn our respect.
They all know what movie they’re into.
You know what I mean?
Like they are having a ball and they have it turned up.
They know this is a Fast movie, this isn’t Monster 2, this isn’t The Queen.
They’re like, “Okay.
This is what we’re doing.
Let’s go for it, where not every actor could do that.”
You know what I mean?
That’s probably the most extreme example I could think of, but I’m sure there’s others.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yep, yep.
Derek Lawrence: Next-up, quote of the week, we got some good options here.
And I feel like we’ll talk more about the dynamic between those two.
You had a big mouth on a small head.
Coming from prisoner 6753.
Audio: Your team is about to go up against the only thing they can’t handle.
Derek Lawrence: Come on, Charlize.
And then I quoted it earlier, Luke Hobbs, Dominic Toretto just went rogue.
That’s a trailer line.
They’re filming that on set and they’re like, “Oh, we’ve got that.
That’s locked in for the trailer.”
Then one more for me.
And she’s like, “What’s my last name?”
And then they’re kind of, they have no answer.
Then Tej is like, “It’s going to be Parker.
That’s all that really matters.”
So it just perfectly comes together.
Luda, who would have known he’s just got these improv skills like that.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, yeah.
This movie is filled with so much humor in that way too and these iconic lines.
I’m not like, “Oh, that’s cheesier now.”
Now, it’s still good.
I still loved it.
But you have lines like, “You want to see the old Dom.
Like that’s great.
There’s lines like, “What are you going to apply for a job?
Audio: Are you going to apply for a job?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: They’re back and forth, just iconic throughout.
Of course, we know what that led to for those characters.
Then there’s a payoff in the big submarine.
And Dom literally no worries, no sweat just says, “You’re wrong.
I just saved him, and you just took your foot off the tiger’s neck.”
And then he has his big heroic moment where he rejoins the team.
It’s so good.
Just that he gets to have that.
I think of it every time I think of this movie.
Audio: Congratulations, Dom, you just killed your son.
I just saved them, and you just took your foot off the tiger’s neck.
Let’s go.”
Audio: This is it.
Derek Lawrence: Like was ready for that one.
No, that’s a good one.
So that’s your pick.
I don’t know for me, there’s so many given, but I don’t know.
I kind of just like, what are you going to apply for a job?
That’s just makes me chuckle.
So some good options, but those are the picks from us.
What’s next, Chanelle?
And I think both of us agree, this is the toughest one to do that for.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
There’s some, not some bad songs in here.
So like you said, it was really tough.
That’s why I think we landed on honorary Oscar.
You know what I mean?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, absolutely.
I think you just says it’s a testament to just how strong the franchise is as a whole.
So give them their awards for it.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
I think you’re right.
That’s not a fact that we haven’t talked about that.
I remember after Furious 7, everyone’s like, “All right.
But that would have been such a beautiful way to go out.
Like is all that more impressive?
So give them that honorary Oscar.
Oscar always do that to people that they can’t, that they’ve never…
If they’d been laid on someone or if they just never awarded them.
So this is their time to appreciate themselves with the Fast family.
Next up, maybe my favorite category usually.
I love a good heat check.
So biggest heat check.
The two that came to mind for me, one, Charlize going with the dreads.
I really hope that was her idea.
I felt like it had to be.
Who was like… Who went up was it?
I mean, the guy was put in Charlize and state them in cars before anybody.
That’s kind of scarring.
Imagine he’d just being five years old at kindergarten with no name.
I’m like, “Come on, Elena.”
But naming the kid, Brian, when Brian is still technically around.
I get what they… Obviously, we know it’s still a great moment.
But then when you sit back and think about it, you’re like, “Okay.
You didn’t invite Brian to this big ceremony, announcing his godson is named after him.”
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah.
He’s not even on FaceTime.
Derek Lawrence: Great point.
But I mean, obviously, I said fitting in beautiful tribute, but just for Paul.
If we’re looking at stuff, we’re like, “Oh, okay.
We would have been like, “Okay.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah.
I’m like, “Oh, okay.
I guess that works.”
So it makes sense but it was a little surprising too.
So I would absolutely love to know what the thinking is.
Is Cipher just like, “This is the vibe all the time.
It’s just a wild hairstyle.
That’s the way she has fun other than wreaking havoc across the world.”
I have to know why dreads and then why a bowl cut.
I need to know.
Derek Lawrence: Do you think this franchise just in 20 years where we have Nico versus Brian?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Oh, that would be fascinating.
Derek Lawrence: Jordana kind of pitched that a little bit.
Not quite that version, but you know what?
He said he would.
We haven’t laid eyes on Nico.
No offense to Vincent.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah.
I feel like it would be sweet too.
I would love that.
He’s probably got up to some stuff.
Maybe that’s Fast 11, Nico’s got to get taken down by the family.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Oh, my gosh.
I mean, easy one, Scott Eastwood.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Derek Lawrence: Also, kind of a no-win situation for Scott Eastwood.
It’s like no one can do that.
It’s Kurt Russell.
You know what I mean?
Anybody out there seeing Wrath of Man, the Jason Statham movie that just came out?
Scotty’s was going for it and I respected it.
We’re not anti-Scott Eastwood on this pod.
Just kind of feel like there wasn’t a huge need for little Nobody.
Maybe that’s why F9, it appears like there is a only one Nobody.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: No mention of him.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
So we can move on to the next one, the holy shit moment of the week.
I think we’ve got a few contenders.
What are you looking at Chanelle here?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: There are some huge set pieces.
It’s incredible to see on screen.
Similarly, the prison escape when both Hobbs and Shaw are breaking out beautifully choreographed, so much fun.
Everybody’s in orange too.
It’s like the colors are so bright.
That’s pretty big.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah, no, you’re dead right in all those.
I think my favorite moment of this movie might be that state, the baby fight.
The baby fight.”
I just loved it that much.
Like I said, probably my favorite part of the movie.
It which is I think the ender of the first trailer.
And you’re just like, “What the hell?”
You’re like, “What?”
It just has like weird.
It was just, obviously, you’re like, “Why is…
Right in front of Letty, Dom?
What do you do it?”
And we don’t know this Cipher character at the time either.
We just know what Charlize and then she’s the bad guy.
It just also felt weird.
I was like, you’re just… Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, yeah.
So it’s like, “All right.”
It’s very manipulative.
It’s definitely a surprise was not expecting anything like that.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
So if I had a… Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
I’ll roll with the kiss.
For me, and I know for you as well.
And just that dynamic was perfect in seven.
I mean, when Dom goes to see Hobbs in the hospital, that’s a really good scene.
There was some chemistry there and just a dynamic that the fans really grabbed onto.
I think that’s just a bummer.
I just miss those two characters together.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, I totally agree.
So having sort of that illusion burst a little bit was just sad.
I can’t really think of another way to say it.
It’s kind of sad.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah, no, totally agree.
And I will say when Hobbs and Shaw came out, did really well at the box office.
Dwayne and kind of recorded a video thanking him and all that stuff.
Then he ended it with, “See you soon, Toretto.”
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah, hey.
So hopefully, we’ll end up there.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: Yeah.
I also have a question.
I mean, we know now in F9 that there is a Toretto that Hobbs has presumably not met.
I need to know what the reaction is from all of that.
Those are two guys that are very closely connected in that way.
So just makes perfect sense to then see all three of those guys together.
Fingers crossed on that.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: He’s so good.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
Lastly, as we always do, we wrap up with a winning’s winnings.
So who was the ultimate winner of The Fate of the Furious?
What do you think, Chanelle?
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: I think it kind of goes two ways in two different contexts.
So clear winners there.
But also I think within the movie, for me, it’s Dom.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah.
Most of his stuff is with different people and not the usual family.
Then at the same time, we have Statham, The Rock.
We’re almost doing like a backdoor pilot, at the same time.
And obviously, they found that to be successful.
And it seemed like they really like…
The rock there had always been talk of doing a Hobbs movie.
And he’s like, “This all right.
This is what it is if we’re going to do something.”
So clearly, maybe Statham’s the biggest winner because he gets… That’s the pitch of the movie.
When they walked in to be like, “All right.
What’s Fast 8?”
That’s the line they did.
They’re like, “Dominic Toretto just went rogue.”
And clearly, that was accepted.
I think those got to be the two different, or I guess three different winners.
We’ve may have three winners, three people earned our respect, and just worked out perfectly.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: It’s a packed movie.
Derek Lawrence: Yeah, absolutely.
Well, it was packed.
That’s we went deep on this one, but that’s all the time we have today.
Thanks again to Natalie Emmanuel for joining us, and Brian O’Connor, we hope we earned your respect.
Jakob Toretto himself for a spoiler-free preview of F9.
So just a little run down.
We got a lot more binge and F9 content coming your way.
So stay strapped in, we’re almost to the finish line.
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Chanelle Berlin Johnson: you’re free to find us on Twitter @derekjlawrence or me @chanelleberlin.
Derek Lawrence: Also, head to ew.com for complete coverage of the Fast Saga and full episode transcripts.
Chanelle Berlin Johnson: This episode was hosted and produced by Derek Lawrence and Chanelle Berlin Johnson.
