But, as Caleb notes, “We were happy to not listen to it for a while.

Luckily, he did.

“Markus is very challenging,” says Jared.

Kings of Leon

Nathan, Matthew, Caleb, and Jared Followill of Kings of Leon.Credit: Matthew Followill

He takes every opportunity to push you.

It’s super helpful [and] super frustrating.”

Caleb jokes that during the recording process he couldn’t sleep through the night.

“I was shell-shocked.

I’d wake my wife up, screaming, ‘Markus!

I need to focus on that.

We’re still trying to find ways to experiment and do different things; we’re still growing.”

“Every song is almost five minutes long.”

“What I’m saying is, ‘Don’t take it for granted,'” Caleb explains.

“You’re going to look back and go, ‘Wow, I had it so easy. "

Perhaps that self-aware appreciation mixed with just enough restlessness is the key to their longevity.

“Bands with family almost never make it for a super long time,” says Jared.

Caleb recalls a party he and Jared jetted to London to attend.

So what’s left to achieve?

“That s— terrifies me,” he says.

“There are so many places I can’t wait to go,” says Caleb.

“And it’s not just to play shows.

Selfishly, I can’t wait to f—ing go to some restaurants.”

For Jared, any travel sounds good.

“I cannot wait to be stuck in traffic,” he says.”

Or drink red wine and watchHigh Fidelityon a 10-hour flight with a screaming baby."

Now that’s rock & roll.