But, as Caleb notes, “We were happy to not listen to it for a while.
Luckily, he did.
“Markus is very challenging,” says Jared.

Nathan, Matthew, Caleb, and Jared Followill of Kings of Leon.Credit: Matthew Followill
He takes every opportunity to push you.
It’s super helpful [and] super frustrating.”
Caleb jokes that during the recording process he couldn’t sleep through the night.
“I was shell-shocked.
I’d wake my wife up, screaming, ‘Markus!
I need to focus on that.
We’re still trying to find ways to experiment and do different things; we’re still growing.”
“Every song is almost five minutes long.”
“What I’m saying is, ‘Don’t take it for granted,'” Caleb explains.
“You’re going to look back and go, ‘Wow, I had it so easy. "
Perhaps that self-aware appreciation mixed with just enough restlessness is the key to their longevity.
“Bands with family almost never make it for a super long time,” says Jared.
Caleb recalls a party he and Jared jetted to London to attend.
So what’s left to achieve?
“That s— terrifies me,” he says.
“There are so many places I can’t wait to go,” says Caleb.
“And it’s not just to play shows.
Selfishly, I can’t wait to f—ing go to some restaurants.”
For Jared, any travel sounds good.
“I cannot wait to be stuck in traffic,” he says.”
Or drink red wine and watchHigh Fidelityon a 10-hour flight with a screaming baby."
Now that’s rock & roll.