In the Venn diagram of modern pop, all circles seem to overlap with Jack Antonoff.
“And some people make really good work from a cynical place!
It’s just not something that I can do.")

Folk, yeah: Taylor Swift, Jack Antonoff, and coproducer Aaron Dessner accept their Album of the Year trophy for ‘Folklore’ at the 2021 Grammy Awards.Kevin Winter/Getty Images
Everyone’s out doing s— on a Saturday night, and I’m home writing songs.”
But getting Springsteen on tape, Antonoff swears, “was an incredibly organic experience.
There’s a reason why she’s at the stage she is.

Antonoff tapped Bruce Springsteen for Bleachers' single ‘Chinatown’.
It’s because of a gut feeling she follows, and she followed it with me.
And then Taylor said, ‘You’rethe producer,’ and after that, people don’t question it.”
But I also don’t work with people who aren’t brilliant and who aren’t producers themselves.