Nathan Campbell would approve.

While speaking to EW forInsecure’sbon voyage digital coverlast October, Ellis reflected on that “frustrating” Lawrence-centric episode.

“It was a frustrating episode,” Ellis said.

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Jay Ellis as Lawrence in ‘Insecure’.HBO

There were parts of it that felt very lonely.

I shot a lot by myself.

I think it made me very much step into Lawrence’s shoes."

Wanting to be a good dad is not being a good dad.

Wanting to be a good co-parent is not being a co-parent.

You have to do."

But that’s what makes the narrative compelling.

“I think this episode is 100 percent that.”