Getting Tender with George.

ButGeorge Clooneycalls direct from Australia, where he’s currently shooting a romantic comedy with Julia Roberts.

“No, no publicists around here,” he says, laughing.

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George Clooney directs Daniel Ranieri on the set of ‘The Tender Bar’.CLAIRE FOLGER/AMAZON

“It’s just kangaroos and me.”

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You’ve directed movies based on books before Confessions of a Dangerous Mind,Monuments Men.

Do you find it easier to be working from real-life source material or no?

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Ben Affleck in ‘The Tender Bar’.Claire Folger/Amazon Studios

You know, I don’t know.

The good news with having a book is it gives you a palette to work from.

So you always have to change it up a little bit.

Just slice those Condors in half and you’re good.

Was it that he was just less expensive than Matt Damon or

[Laughs]It was.

Hard times, and we thought we could get him cheap.

And both of us at the same time thought about Ben.

We’ve worked with Ben before.

We like him a lot.

He’s very smart, which this character has to be.

He’s well-read, as Ben is.

To me, it was always like listening to the Sopranos doing Shakespeare.

Didn’t know what his world was like.

Did you have an Uncle Charlie?

He was a bad drunk.

He also happened to be the funniest man alive, and in the summers I would stay with him.

No, you treat them like tiny adults.

They’re so much smarter than we give them credit for, they know exactly what’s going on.

I played it back and looked at it and said “We got it.”

That’s unheard of.

I remember finding out Noah was actually British, that kind of blew my mind.

He’s very special young man, Noah.

And I was like, “I got one for you.”

I would do that with Daniel in a heartbeat too.

The scene-setting and the era is so specific inThe Tender Bar.

How real did that 1972 or 1983 feel to you on set?

Since I lived through those pretty well, it felt exactly right.

And that’s the fun part.

That’s how I remember it too.

We only knew him in black and white.

Adult dramas have obviously struggled in the last few years to compete theatrically.

It was always difficult to find a place for them to exist.

So that’s the good news.

I mean, you always have to fight.

I’m also doing a film with Brad [Pitt] for Apple and that’s a big-budget film.

The secret is you have to work to guarantee that there’s also a theatrical release.

They were like, “Yeah, that’s not really our thing anymore.”

So the streamers have really opened up a door in a way to keep those kinds of stories alive.

Okay, last question.

Are you maybe getting softer

Am I mellowing in my old age?

There have been huge dividing lines.

There are people who are kind to one another and love one another."

And I just liked that.